Comments on: Redefining “Learning” http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/ Business Success Through Personal Growth Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:48:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: DirkTietjen http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-410 DirkTietjen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:35:32 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-410 Same happens when u drive from one shoppingcenter to the other to get the special - saving u 15 bucks cause ur in the groove of "saving money is good" but burning down your gasoline and valuable time. But that is in another groove. I wrote a lot about these themes in my blog which I have backlinked too. Your post here just let it pour out of me...:-) Cheers, Dirk Same happens when u drive from one shoppingcenter to the other to get the special – saving u 15 bucks cause ur in the groove of "saving money is good" but burning down your gasoline and valuable time. But that is in another groove. I wrote a lot about these themes in my blog which I have backlinked too. Your post here just let it pour out of me…:-) Cheers, Dirk

]]> By: DirkTietjen http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-409 DirkTietjen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:35:04 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-409 But no, mentioning doesnt mean students can implement that fast so it is a lot better to stick with the long explanantion until the student had a few days time to built connections in brain. Also the coach should not think everyone can think and follow and drive on the highway as fast as he can - students might have the machete for beaten path in the hands and are not driving the mercedes benz on the information highway yet:-) . Coming back to ur example of the airline which I have faced interestingly, too and almost missed my transatlantic flight:-). If the ticket has the word "XX airline" on it brain goes on automatic and follows the connection, beaten path or highway it has with that airline and then leads u to the wrong terminal. It is the theorie of the "thinking groove" at work. Once ur caught in one groove its not easy to jump in another one. But no, mentioning doesnt mean students can implement that fast so it is a lot better to stick with the long explanantion until the student had a few days time to built connections in brain.

Also the coach should not think everyone can think and follow and drive on the highway as fast as he can – students might have the machete for beaten path in the hands and are not driving the mercedes benz on the information highway yet:-) .

Coming back to ur example of the airline which I have faced interestingly, too and almost missed my transatlantic flight:-). If the ticket has the word "XX airline" on it brain goes on automatic and follows the connection, beaten path or highway it has with that airline and then leads u to the wrong terminal.
It is the theorie of the "thinking groove" at work. Once ur caught in one groove its not easy to jump in another one.

]]> By: DirkTietjen http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-408 DirkTietjen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:34:14 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-408 The first steps are very crucial for later success and if u dont give it the time the brains needs the outcome will be poorer then necessary. ____You can say the slower learner at the start is, it gets him to the goal faster at the end. It is like our brain is like a dschungle and a new skill forces us to cut a new beaten path i n the dschungle with our machete. At first it is slow and takes a lot of energy. Later the more often we travel that beaten path it will develop stronger and stronger until it is a solid "information highway" and we can think and act stronger and faster. But we cant do that right after we learned it for the first time, the brain needs time. That is the exact problem many students face in coaching sessions. As the coach is using his information highways and drives from here to there fast, the students still have the machete in a hand and cant follow so fast as there is still road construction going on. So it just wont work if a coach uses three new terms of that specific skill and then starts using the short form from that point on, as he mentioned it and the students should know, right? The first steps are very crucial for later success and if u dont give it the time the brains needs the outcome will be poorer then necessary. ____You can say the slower learner at the start is, it gets him to the goal faster at the end. It is like our brain is like a dschungle and a new skill forces us to cut a new beaten path i n the dschungle with our machete. At first it is slow and takes a lot of energy. Later the more often we travel that beaten path it will develop stronger and stronger until it is a solid "information highway" and we can think and act stronger and faster. But we cant do that right after we learned it for the first time, the brain needs time. That is the exact problem many students face in coaching sessions. As the coach is using his information highways and drives from here to there fast, the students still have the machete in a hand and cant follow so fast as there is still road construction going on. So it just wont work if a coach uses three new terms of that specific skill and then starts using the short form from that point on, as he mentioned it and the students should know, right?

]]> By: DirkTietjen http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-407 DirkTietjen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:30:46 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-407 Lou, that is an interesting task you bring up and even though it has been a while up I am still commenting. I have been studying learning techniques and the brain for many years now as I a m fascinated by it. And the points u r making are absolutely true. Let me share and add some of my own thoughts and experiences to it if I may. One of your points is that true learning is only when u implement the information in ur behaviour and I totally agree. The thing is we do not have a chance to implement it right away as we do know nowadays that the learning curve of reading skills and information is totally different then the learning curve of acting and behaving. As we can in most cases pretty fast implement passive knowledge in our brain it certainly takes some time to implement it actually in our behaviour. Our brain has to built new connections and that takes time. We cant overtake our brain at this stage and it is better not to try, too since in the initial start of a new skill is very important not to try to speed up things. Lou, that is an interesting task you bring up and even though it has been a while up I am still commenting. I have been studying learning techniques and the brain for many years now as I a m fascinated by it. And the points u r making are absolutely true. Let me share and add some of my own thoughts and experiences to it if I may. One of your points is that true learning is only when u implement the information in ur behaviour and I totally agree. The thing is we do not have a chance to implement it right away as we do know nowadays that the learning curve of reading skills and information is totally different then the learning curve of acting and behaving.
As we can in most cases pretty fast implement passive knowledge in our brain it certainly takes some time to implement it actually in our behaviour. Our brain has to built new connections and that takes time. We cant overtake our brain at this stage and it is better not to try, too since in the initial start of a new skill is very important not to try to speed up things.

]]> By: Sandi Neilson http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-180 Sandi Neilson Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:47:45 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-180 Lou - what I take from this is like the 2nd and/or 3rd circle of a set of ever decreasing circles where the outer circle is data - just facts and figures we don't relate anything to. Once we relate these facts and figures to something within a sphere of interest for us if becomes information. Should we desire or need a result we move into a tighter circle - knowledge where we start to align the implications of the information (ie the fact you keep going to the wrong airline counter starts to impact on us - the instigator to new action). From there we'll head into intelligence - a mix of understanding and awareness - the impact starts to deepen. Eventually we'll meet wisdom if it means enough to us ie where it is natural to sell those shares when the timimg is fully right for us or we attend a seminar and something totally clicks and we immediately take a new course of action. Sandi taaabs Coaching Lou – what I take from this is like the 2nd and/or 3rd circle of a set of ever decreasing circles where the outer circle is data – just facts and figures we don't relate anything to. Once we relate these facts and figures to something within a sphere of interest for us if becomes information. Should we desire or need a result we move into a tighter circle – knowledge where we start to align the implications of the information (ie the fact you keep going to the wrong airline counter starts to impact on us – the instigator to new action). From there we'll head into intelligence – a mix of understanding and awareness – the impact starts to deepen. Eventually we'll meet wisdom if it means enough to us ie where it is natural to sell those shares when the timimg is fully right for us or we attend a seminar and something totally clicks and we immediately take a new course of action.

Sandi
taaabs Coaching

]]> By: Beautiful http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-154 Beautiful Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:42:48 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-154 I trust I will be able to let go of "I know" and replace it with "I have learned..." It may be an interesting way of checking myself whenever I come across old information that I think I know but have not yet learned. Thanks Lou - interesting post. I trust I will be able to let go of "I know" and replace it with "I have learned…" It may be an interesting way of checking myself whenever I come across old information that I think I know but have not yet learned.

Thanks Lou – interesting post.

]]> By: Judy Schramm http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-144 Judy Schramm Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:16:11 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-144 I couldn't agree more! There is a huge difference between understanding something intellectually and making changes in your life or business that reflect a different way of doing things. If you can figure out how to make it easier for people to change their behavior you will have something that will be extraordinarily successful. I'm looking forward to hearing more... Happy Holidays! Judy Schramm JMR Consulting I couldn't agree more!

There is a huge difference between understanding something intellectually and making changes in your life or business that reflect a different way of doing things.

If you can figure out how to make it easier for people to change their behavior you will have something that will be extraordinarily successful.

I'm looking forward to hearing more…

Happy Holidays!

Judy Schramm
JMR Consulting

]]> By: Lauren Miller http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-142 Lauren Miller Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:56:49 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-142 Here is the problem with thinking you know everything. If I told you, you need to drink more water and eat more vegetables, your first response might be… “I know that.” You instantly shut down your brain when you have heard something before, especially when it involves a behavior change that means leaving your comfort zone. Without being receptive to the learning, a behavioral change will not happen. Change requires NOT being YOU. Tell yourself: “If I have to change, I need to STOP being ME.” You are capable of not being you, but you need to learn how… in consistent small doses over time. That’s how habits, change, and ultimately results occur. Great post, Lou! Happy Holidays! Lauren Here is the problem with thinking you know everything. If I told you, you need to drink more water and eat more vegetables, your first response might be… “I know that.” You instantly shut down your brain when you have heard something before, especially when it involves a behavior change that means leaving your comfort zone.

Without being receptive to the learning, a behavioral change will not happen. Change requires NOT being YOU. Tell yourself: “If I have to change, I need to STOP being ME.” You are capable of not being you, but you need to learn how… in consistent small doses over time. That’s how habits, change, and ultimately results occur.

Great post, Lou! Happy Holidays!
Lauren

]]> By: Sandy_Faulkner http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Sandy_Faulkner Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:50:11 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-141 Thanks for the reminder. This is great for business. My oldest daughter is now doing the college search, this is a great concept for her to understand now. It will make life much more interesting. Thanks Lou. Merry Christmas, Sandy Faulkner Thanks for the reminder. This is great for business. My oldest daughter is now doing the college search, this is a great concept for her to understand now. It will make life much more interesting. Thanks Lou.

Merry Christmas,

Sandy Faulkner

]]> By: Melissa Van Cleave http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Melissa Van Cleave Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:55:00 +0000 http://powerupcoaching.com/redefining-learning/#comment-143 I understand fully....I appreciate the way you explained the information in serveral ways....in my creativity...comes forth as a thought of wisdom or knowledge of information....that I can let sit there and do nothing with...or do I risk to do it differently from this new information and allow something new to be created....thus birthing new action....and a new part of me emerges from the unknown space....does us no good to have the information and sit on it.....Got it!!!....I recognize your learning in my purpose...we infused another layer with great learning... Thank You Lou I understand fully….I appreciate the way you explained the information in serveral ways….in my creativity…comes forth as a thought of wisdom or knowledge of information….that I can let sit there and do nothing with…or do I risk to do it differently from this new information and allow something new to be created….thus birthing new action….and a new part of me emerges from the unknown space….does us no good to have the information and sit on it…..Got it!!!….I recognize your learning in my purpose…we infused another layer with great learning…
Thank You Lou

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